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The cheques prove it - most SAG-AFTRA members don’t make a living wage. (www.insider.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Fascinating article, with numerous examples where significant characters make trivial residuals on hit shows with significant streaming runs.

It also has implications in terms of explaining why kids of people who work in the industry are working in the industry. If you’ve got parents in LA and NY and they can help support you, you’re more likely to hang in a business that’s not actually paying a living wage.

It gives a different lens on Mica Burton’s appearance in Picard season three as a recurring character for example.

Burton, the daughter of the "Star Trek" star LeVar Burton, tweeted about how little she got paid when she appeared in five episodes of "Star Trek: Picard" earlier this year.

In response to a thread regarding misconceptions about the union, Mica wrote: "Please read this thread. I said before, there is no way I could survive as a working actor if I didn't have my 100 other side hustles. Yes, I was on Star Trek. I also do not qualify for SAG health insurance and was paid almost the same fee my dad was paid for Roots back in 1977."

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds to me like the industry is set up to fuck over the talent pretty hard on streaming residuals, but it's real hard to garner much sympathy for people crying about only earning $900/day and only having to do that 4 days a month. Yeah, taxes suck for everyone. We don't get managers and publicists and lawyers to help with any of that shit. Even if you blow out half of your check, that's a huge number of advantages none of the rest of us can reasonably expect at any job. $1800 a month doesn't cover rent in NY, but can you name another job that can clear that much working only 4 days out of the month? I'm sorry you have to part time to make up the difference, but that's the reality for pretty much everyone. I know people working 3 jobs who don't make $900 a day. They just happen to work a lot more to make up the difference.

All of that being said, residuals from just bojack should probably be more than $26k a year. What are the numbers for revenue generated by that series alone per year? $26k has to be a drop in the bucket

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am in no way defending actors' pay rates here but it's wrong to distill their work down to just days they get paid. You don't just show up on set, get the script, and start filming..

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they're required to be somewhere and do something, they get paid. That's what a job is about. If they have to be at a reading, paid. If they have to dry run with the crew, paid. If they have to wait around and fluff themselves for 6 hours waiting to shoot, paid. Sure, they probably read and practice on their own time, which they have a LOT of considering 4 days a month. But even as a welder, I think about work stuff in my off time too. I just have to actually do it for work a lot more often.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then where does your 4 day claim come from? You can't do all those things in 4 days a month.

To your job point, I think about work in my free time, too. But our work remains much more similar day-to-day, we don't need to *practice" in our off-time for each new job. That's very different to being an irreplaceable part of a movie so unless your an expert in a very niche industry, you and I are replaceable at work. We may be great at our jobs but if we get hit by a bus, our bosses would hire new employees next week. They have to practice, train, learn new skills, etc.

At the end of the day, if a movie could not be made without the cooperation of the artists, those artists deserve a bigger piece of the pie than they're getting. What do the executives who is completely disconnected from the production bring to the table to deserve such a high percentage of the profits?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Did you not read the article?

"And assuming you work four days a month – we're talking $1800 for a months work, and you live in New York City. That doesn't make rent."

Direct quote from the article where one of the orange is the new black actors talking about their pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe we should call in someone with a bit more first-hand knowledge like our favorite Lemmy user TotallyNotMargotRobbie (I don't know how to tag people though)